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What hobbies do you guys have?
I’ve pretty much had the same hobby for 25 years. But given a big tangled mess of issues (the same ones that bring me to Brojo) it’s become more stressful and depressing than entertaining. So I’m on the hunt for alternatives. For reference, I’ve been dancing one or more of salsa/bachata/kizomba/zouk since 1999. It’s pretty challenging finding something that fills the gaps in fitness, social intros, nights at the bar, IRL tinder, and regular travel destinations for big events. Plus of course finding something I find interesting. So, let’s have a discussion about what you guys get yourselves up to. PS, I’ve done a few PT boxing sessions at the gym, which has got me to look at the nearby boxing gyms and Krav Maga options. I plan to check out a few trial classes.
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@Hemi Rainford Good on you for having the courage to go to the retreat mate. Don't just brush this off, it's a giant step forward. I don't know how I'd answer that question either" what is your skill ". - no fucking idea! And you'd be surprised how many others there would have been just as nervous and feeling out of place telling themselves their own stories. The overconsumption of self help courses, audios and the like which never get fully completed and then lead to further self judgement and helplessness is probably my number one skill - in the past that is. Or at least that is my mindset today. Your not alone mate. For me it is so easy to focus on the negatives and choose to ignore all of the things I've done that have been a success. I've found this thread interesting, in that I have trouble differentiating between my hobbies and my time spent with my children. Understand this has a bit to do with spending time away at work, but it might be time to revive my old passion of fishing and pass this gift into my son.
Empathy
Interesting conversations with my kids. With my son yesterday ‘How are you feeling mate with the pain - sorry I don’t ask you that. ’…. You don’t have to ask me that Dad - Mum does it all the bloody time. ‘This must frustrate you. The whole thing with being at home must be frustrating - I bet you miss all your mates. How that makes you feel must be worse than being in pain,? Not much of a reaction from him at the time, but he opened up later in the day and included me in some Lego time, which he hadn’t done for weeks. Can’t expect too much from him with respect to sharing how he feels - considering his role model up to now. @Daniel Munro Cheers Dan was great to feel some connection with him. Conversation still felt controlled, but it’s a start. And with my Daughter today on the drive to school apologising to her for being stuck in my head with thoughts and not feeling well when I picked her up yesterday. ‘That’s ok Dad we all get like that and feel like shit and don’t always know why - I feel like that a lot and don’t say anything - you are just the same as everyone, but it still sucks. I know it had nothing to do with me’… At 17 she can express Empathy better than me at 51. Hope she doesn’t feel she needs to try and manage my feelings though. Probably need to give credit where credits due for how she has turned out - to my Wife. It’s an interesting concept to me interacting with others from their perspective, rather than from my own self-centredness. Allows the space in response to choose not to follow the automatic victim pattern but to accept what’s in front of me. At least that’s the overanalysed theory in my Nice Guy mind. Now to turn that back on myself and show empathy for my behaviour in the Now, rather than judge myself on a past or future imaginary story which only exists in my mind.
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@Charan Arora ‘I've started doing the deep listening, though I go back to my old ways often. This listening habit, I do want to internalize and keep. So far it has worked wonders with all my kids. They just sit and talk away, it's lovely to see them connect and bond in this way.’ Thanks Charan, beautiful share. I need to continually remind myself of this. Should be giving this gift to those that matter the most to us first and foremost. It’s clear to me now why I found the empathic listening so challenging to grasp. During active listening, there was still the element of judgement floating around in the background. The reverse funnel - was attempting active listening with strangers or those not as close to me the judgement was reflected back on myself, whilst with those close to me it was being projected onto them. Not a genuine attempt at connection, just another method of control of my feelings in the moment. I’m glad it’s worked wonders with your kids - there is no greater feeling than to connect and bond with them.
Introduction
I am 24, from Czech republic. I am currently working on regaining self respect and decisiveness. I have largely been an actual nice guy when growing up, endlessly giving without expectations or being sour about what I get in return. Just genuinely enjoyed helping my close ones. It was only when I started my last relationship, now of nearly 3 years with a girl that is honestly incompetent, maturity of a teenager and ego as tough as wet tissue paper that I started souring. I have been housing and feeding her, and while surviving her constant tantrums I have put myself into the martyrdom of being her surrogate father basically - the only other choice was making her homeless which I am even now unable to do. This led to me also realizing how bad my family and friends reacted to my setting of boundaries on my time and help, which led down the rabbit hole of realizing that there was always so much bitching and moaning from all those important to me whenever I needed even minor help when growing up. The relationship is in shambles and we broke up temporarily while I still housed her, as am now, during which time she sought the attention of men who "make her feel like a woman" and generally her increasing the abuse and putting me down even more as she tried to rationalize that our lack of chemistry and love is caused by my inferiority to other men. So working on getting past this right now, trying to let go of the 10% of the time my girlfriend was very lovely, and trying to reconnect with my family, friends and hobbies that I all stonewalled due to focusing all my energy on being a "parent" walking on eggshells and constantly using kid gloves for years now.
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Respect mate - appreciate your honesty and vulnerability. Great to have you here!
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Realise that I filter my posts here the same way I filter the truth in my life. Thinking that what if someone I know from work knows that I am that Chris Thompson! When the reality is that my goal of hiding quietly in the corner so that no one else realises that I’m so quiet and hiding is an amazing success. As if anyone reading this who knows me isn’t already aware of my biggest secret🤣 Hey Guys, Chris here. Recovering Nice Guy, scared shitless of being noticed who has lied and hid the truth for my entire life. Believing that there is somethings fundamentally wrong with the real me. Not here to become a better man for my Wife and Kids, but to become a better man for myself in every moment.
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Hey Ernie - welcome mate!
Brotherhood Group Coaching recording for 20 November
Hey guys, the video, audio and chat box recordings are now available in the Dropbox folder for yesterday's session. Password has been emailed to you. Thanks to @Chris Thompson for being transparent about the struggles he has with being judgmental, both toward himself and others, and allowing us to explore the dark controlling side of nice guy syndrome and how this relates to worrying what others think of us. Extra resources that back up our discussion: - The Shameless & Unbreakable course is probably the most relevant for a deeper dive into this topic. - Nice Guy Narcissism - Nice guys are secretly judgmental - Webinar on being judgmental Message or email me if you won't make it and want questions answered, and let me know if you're keen for the hot seat (next is Andrew). Zoom link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82202610772 NEXT CALL TIME:
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Brotherhood Group Coaching recording for 20 November
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@Kent Curry Cheers Kent. Continued wrestling with being judgmental in my own mind for the rest of the day. Realise now that after the clarity and high of the call, dropped down into that shitty place, where I start looking for escape. Managed to curb the alcohol and binge eating urges - coping vices and minimise the victim shit in my head. Today’s a new day! Yeah the inner control mechanism - safe in every environment. The Empathy really hit home for me here. Just as long as I now don’t turn Empathy into a new DVD extra… I’m with you there mate, time to reset that obsession.
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