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What's up yall! Kicking it with yall for an hour so so. Ask me anything 🤧
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New comment Oct '23
0 likes • Aug '23
Hey Corey! I’m a German artist focusing on the English-speaking market. Me and my duo partner have been focusing on tiktok over the past couple of months (3 posts a day, averaging between 200-4000 views each), in the past 28 days we’ve grown 69% to 374 listeners per month. We’ve been interested in starting to do ads, but we’re unsure if that’s a good idea right now, considering that, with such a small listener base and only a 2500€ budget, it seems unlikely that we would hit any algorithms. We do have very good listener retention (11 streams per listener in the past 28 days, 7.4 streams/listener since 2015) & I’m positive that those stats (especially in the past 28 days) have not been meddled with through unauthorized adds to any bot-playlists or similar things. Current sources of streams are 58% own playlists, 2% other listeners playlists, 25% profile, 11% algorithmic (no editorial). Would you recommend us to just keep pushing social media a bit until a point X at which it makes sense to start pushing with ads? Or do you believe a properly set up ad campaign with a well-made piece of content for this purpose could come with a RoI that makes sense at the moment to properly scale our fanbase in the future? Our budget is very limited at the time (which I’m working on) and the investment would cut into my savings but it’s not an amount I’d be uncomfortable with. However, scaling that amount of money at this time or in the very near future would not be possible. Thank You for the attention & advice! I really appreciate all y'all are doing.
0 likes • Aug '23
@Jacorey Barkley oh yeah, i got you, we don't have any first-hand experience with ads yet so starting out more for the experience than actually hitting any algorithms so that once we're at that level, we scale easier. makes sense. we'll figure out a couple pieces of content to run a&b-testing with over the next couple of days and then see where things are going. thank you for the advice!
Music Teams
We have seen many groups or friends or strangers that met by happenstance become a team of musical artist. With social media being so prevalent, how do yall feel about creating a team based on people you meet online? Example, 6-10 people apart of BMN get together and start creating and supporting each other. Thoughts.....
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New comment Mar '23
5 likes • Feb '23
absolutely, but typically stuff like that starts out as being interested in similar topics/starting to talk, friendship & eventually that. I'm working extremely closely with a female singer called "Nabi", we actually started working together because i was looking through #singer on IG and tried finding some hidden talent (which i did), then we worked together on a couple of posts, got to talk more and now we're doing a bunch of stuff together. I feel like to really build a team like that, there needs to be a ton of trust, + you all gotta fw each other music obviously. One person on the group does something stupid, that can very easily fire back on you if you're working closely with them even if you got nothing to do with that, you know the state of the internet atm
NEW MEMBER 💯🔥
Hey, I'm new to the community and just wanted to say what's up. How many Artists/ Producers are in here? Logic Pro X 💻🔥🔥
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New comment Sep '23
NEW MEMBER 💯🔥
0 likes • Feb '23
hey there, welcome to the community! i'm a producer & artist :)
branding vs realism
Hey y'all, so I've got a question that feels a bit more niche regarding content creation that I'd love to hear anybody's takes on! Essentially, I am working very closely together with another artist called "Nabi" and since we're both faceless and will continue being faceless artists due to reasons out of our control, we had the idea of switching over to a drawn-ish artstyle. I believe we have a pretty good basis here, with a very high recognizability of the artstyle as well as a lot of recurring themes etc. in artworks so our spotify should (once we've been working with the new artstyle for a couple of months) also look very clean. However, I am a bit unsure how well the artstyle can fit for social media content, considering that for tiktoks & reels you should be very flashy with a fast hook, lots of visual change etc. and the drawing style restricts us in that way, that every new angle/movement would essentially be a completely new drawing. The question that I am essentially asking myself is: how would e.g. a video of me playing the guitar and singing an emotional song to it in a big, echo-y room stack up against a slightly animated drawing with that same audio in the long and in the short term? In the long term I could see the drawn-version working out better due to the high recognizability of the content, for the short, I could see that the "real" video could get a couple more engagements. For reference on the artstyle: https://www.instagram.com/p/CoXvyn4IcJy/ Artworks on Spotify end up looking like this: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0dlh5CcdvDoWEfdkOqmNM5?si=4C-AAbC5RyeQ6GRyQsEbgw I'd love to hear y'alls opinions on this since it's definitely a decision we struggled with for a long time and are still kind of rocking back and forth on, also regarding optimization of this type of content for socials
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New comment Feb '23
0 likes • Feb '23
@Carlos Barnwell i feel you, the concealing identity in a real video also isn't really the problem, there's ways to do that, the problem is sticking to one specific type of branding, especially because the artist i am working closely together with and i are posting a lot together but are physically like 2k miles apart so going for similar shots with two different people in two completely different countries that both don't show their face don't really work that well from our experience. do you believe a bigger focus on animation/making the video more dynamic could make things work out?
Honestly...I never thought I could have a career working in music…
Not many people know this but becoming a music marketer and building this amazing community was never something that I planned. It was more of a fantasy that was just never realistic as I shared the thought that I’m sure many of you do… “there’s no money to be made in music.” Before I elaborate more on the money that YOU could be making, let me take you back. I was a freshman in college, making music with my friends all the time doing whatever I could to just be around music, I just had to be around it. So whether it was going to shows, helping friends that have creative events for their music, being in their music videos, scouting locations for their photo shoots, or being a character in some of their projects, it was all fun. I just loved to soak up that creative energy. Nothing felt even close to what I felt when doing this and that's what I did all throughout college — even though I was majoring in computer science and computer information systems... But after college, I just did what my family wanted. I didn't go into music at all. I got my computer information systems degree, got a job, and started making money. Everything was all good until I began to feel stuck. In my free time, I started figuring out how to be around music again and started helping out my friends who are artists and DJs market themselves, get attention, build their audience, sell merch, set up house parties, and do real-life pop-ups in the middle of the street with my friend, interviewing people on the streets. I had to keep my creative juices going. But at the same time, I kept working my 9-5 job. I wanted to work in music but I just had no idea where the money would come from. It just seemed like those people never made money and I didn't grow up with money — so a career not making money wasn't an option for me. But boy I loved what I was doing. Every time my friends came to me needing my help it was always “I need more people to listen to my music, more people to show up to my event more people to buy my merch more people to follow me on Instagram or YouTube”. These folks needed marketing. And for some reason, for me, once I was able to put it together like that, I realized, oh, there's a legitimate opportunity here…
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New comment Jan 25
4 likes • Jan '23
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Paul Dalkowski
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@paul-dalkowski-3337
singer/songwriter/musicproducer/multi-instrumentalist from germany, trying to put as much soul into my music as possible

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Joined Jan 13, 2023
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