in 1981 -- I was rapidly introduced to St. Louis association of Life underwriter now call St louis NAIFA. I joined and went to as many meetings as I could they always had awesome speakers some were industry leaders. Over the years I made friends and collogues out of many of the other members and even made good friends out of some of the speakers. I frequently text Tom Hegna and he always responds back to me. Point being that venue died a few years back and left a void, But now we have this platform thanks to Ryan and Bill and others on the redwood team and it can be just as helpful for those who engage it. You have virtual y and unlimited supply of opportunity and with the right tools and the right supportive community the only thing standing between you and wild success is your ability to engage and stay focused helping people. to Quote John Cena 14 time WWE champion NEVRE GIVE UP!