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Ego
Do you think “ego” can stop you from learning? Very curious about people‘s opinions on this topic.
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New comment 11h ago
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@Shaina Tran love it! 🥰 I agree completely with what you have stated!
Just curious about belt level
Question when we are training this way do we get belt level and if so how do we go about it?
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@Adam Marlow SPOT ON @Michael Kirwan If you would like a deeper explanation, please see the post that I had written. But essentially, belts don’t determine skill level. You can be a black belt but if you stop training, skills diminish as quickly as its acquisition if you don’t apply it to your life. Hope this clears up your mindset brother.
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@Michael Kirwan
My original training lineage defined
I never thought of it 'back in the day' but now, after a bit of research can trace my 1980's Wing Chun training back to Master Lo Man Kam, a nephew of GGM Ip Man. One of GGM Ip's students proir to Ip relocating to Hong Kong. The 80's school I joined had a patch we worn on out uniforms, back than thinking it was a JKD patch...I now know it was for "Kai Sai (Christopher Casey) Chinese Boxing" that Master James Cravens carries on since the passing of Kai Sai. Master Lo Man Kam called his art "Yim Wing Chun to accent its softness to distinguish it from the much more common hard style". Sounds very much like Sigung CST style. Softness to me would be "use no force" (where do we hear this?), Structure and State" based style of WC. Master Lo Man Kam was a class mater of Sigung Chu Shong Tin. Just wanted to share... Note: Below is the patch I referenced, its meaning is "Kai Sai Energy Boxing", and I really wish I can find mine... Chinese Boxing is what I would call MMA with out any rules, a good research read for sure.
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My original training lineage defined
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@Dave Ellis I have trained with a Lo Man Kam student here in Australia who goes to Taiwan for refresh/progress sessions. I have found that he too, had created a unique way of expressing Wing Chun. I have found his Siu Nim Tao very unique, along with the William Cheung, Moy Yat, Wan Kam Leung from the Ip Man lineage. If you would like an unbiased and educated understanding about the above statement, I please feel free to go onto YouTube, search Ip Man Siu Nim Tao, Lo Man Kam Siu Nim Tao and make a comparison between the two. If you have time, can I please see a video of you practicing the Siu Nim Tao to also confirm my understanding as well? Thank you for creating this awesome post as well as the opportunity to read and comment on it.
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@Dave Ellis awesome, the form that my friend has practiced contained a rather rigid structure and exaggerated movements and his chi sau consisted of pushing on the contact points. Of which the above is contrary to what we are taught in the Chu Shong Tin Lineage. He still goes to Taiwan with his son to practice with the grandmaster Lo Man Kam directly. But I think due to his old age, his son Gorgon LU does the teaching and travelling in place of the grandmaster. I will check your post with your form. Thank you!
Getting better
How long does it take everyone to learn the forms?
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@Zachery Harp The following phases that I would term as ‘learning phases’ are my interpretation of the method of learning that can be applied to any art form or daily action: Phase 1- The Action (copying) Phase: Make all actions or ‘shapes’ beautiful - meaning, ensuring that every action is copied according to the shapes that are presented and taught to you. During this phase, you will have minimal to no concept of the applications other than creating neural pathways and muscle memory. Phase 2 - The Technique (structural) Phase: Apply your structure to the practice - Transition from Action to Technique. During this phase, you will start to understand how your structure can enhance your power generation (Fa Jing/fat Geng) of each technique. During this phase your techniques will lack fluidity as you are still conscious of your shapes and structure. Phase 3 - The Art (state) Phase: Apply all knowledge of the techniques such as power generation, structure, perfection of the action and application. During this phase you will ‘become’ or ‘be at one’ with the state, which allows you to eliminate thoughts and activate what Bruce Lee termed as ‘unconscious consciousness’. The term means reaching the stage where your body reacts instantaneously to any external force successfully via counter attacking and deflection. Phase 4 - The Maintenance (longevity) Phase: long term practice to ‘retain’ or ‘keep’ the art alive. Phase 5 - The Sharing/Spreading (teaching) Phase: Spreading the art to further enhance and retain your knowledge by teaching the art to others. PRACTICING THE ART IS ONLY ONE SIDE OF SKILL ENHANCEMENT AND PROGRESS, BEING ABLE TO TEACH THE ART IS WHERE THE REAL SKILL SHOWS. When you are able to teach the skill to others, that is when you know that you own the skill. The above information is roughly based on my own interpretations of learning and can be termed in different ways according to the user’s background and experiences.
About Bruce
Okay first Bruce practiced wing chun And saw some photo like Bruce is meditating probably the state training So far I learnt that state is that sinking in the space in our own body energy like.. relaxed muscle in that we are just moving the energy rather our muscle strength... Today I re watched enter the dragon...in that every fight his muscles or his body doesn't look like relaxed or like other words to say his whole body were like solid as rock Like like pressuring every part of his body Is that also a part of state, sinking, alignment,centring?
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@Nimarta Paul WSL is short for Wong Shun Leung.
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@Nimarta Paul you are welcome 🤗
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Carlson Yan
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