Before I go in, I want to say I admire you putting yourself out there and sharing screenshots. It makes you vulnerable but it’s the best way to learn. Some guys cry about lack of texting success and girls not responding to their pictures, but never post a screenshot. You got balls man 💪🏻 Before we dive in. Why are these texts from over a year ago? Are you still reflecting heavy on this exchange? Is this the last girl you were texting? Now for the heavy part…Your mind is fucking your success. Start getting into some sessions with Paul to unfuck your inner game. You can also start with the Text Game video Paul dropped on YouTube yesterday. In that video he describes how most people are the weirdos, and it’s so easy to be the cool guy when texting. Do you think you acted like to cool guy? Or the weirdo? Mistake 1 : Her reaching out to you first is CLEARLY her showing interest. You failed to recognize this. Mistake 2 : Your response is very cold, almost trying to be TOO COOL. A simple “I was in a bit of a rush but it was nice chatting with you. Might have to plan another reunion soon 😏” Mistake 3 : You ask her out, but then in a low confidence beta way tell her “but if you don’t it’s too no pressure” which comes across as : I hope you want to spend time with me, but I guess you think I’m a loser so if you don’t want to see me I understand your highness. Mistake 4 : She LITERALLY SAYS she wants to hang out and you get an attitude, because you have low confidence and your inner game is fucked. A way better response to her “I would love to catch up” reply would be “I think we can make that happen. Which nights are you free this week?”. KEEP IT SIMPLE AND MOVING FORWARD Mistake 5 : She reinforces she wants to hang out and then getting all dramatic you tell her you won’t just be friends? Does this sound like something a cool fun guy would say lol? Mistake 6 : She then is so confused by wtf is happening, because you guys obviously had a good interaction at the gym, and now you’re acting like a dick, her mind is scrambled trying to figure out what kind of fuckery this is lol. It’s almost like she’s giving you a final chance to salvage it and you write back you know she’s sorry? Take care lol?
@Paul Benjamin one of your best qualities and unfortunately what gets taken for granted. No one in this space is giving this level of value COMBINED with this level of skill/knowledge FOR FREE. And despite the value exchange the community to is way more quiet than it should be with this many members. The squeaky wheel gets the grease 🤌🏻 You could easily change your business model to optimize profits, but that doesn’t fit your identity/avatar. Appreciate what you’re building brother
Another quick one this morning but spinning off of my post yesterday, when desire isn’t enough… Last week I cold approached a girl at the grocery store; but it was a pretty warm lead. She works at the store and has given me obvious signs of wanting me to approach, but I never moved it past more than a smile out of respect for my LTR at the time. Last Friday we happened to cross paths and she waived to me with a big smile. Now that I’m single I didn’t want to let an easy opener pass by. We exchanged some banter for a few mins, she was asking date type questions (do you work for that company, how old is your dog, how is your week) and I closed with her instagram telling her we’ll grab drinks. A half hour later she followed me back and watched my stories, more signs of high interest. I had a busy weekend and held off until on opening her on IG, but hit her up on Sunday evening. She’s only watched one of my stories since, and hasn’t opened/replied to my opener. My old framework would’ve been : man what did I do wrong, I thought for sure she was into me… After chatting with Paul, I now know I can create desire in a woman, and more importantly I’m getting more familiar with what that looks like. With my new mindset, I’m starting consider more nuanced possibilities. Maybe I didn’t do anything wrong, maybe I killed it and she does have high desire, but maybe there’s something with HER. Maybe there’s a guy in the picture but she couldn’t help but flirt with me, or she doesn’t think a guy like me would want more than a hook up and she isn’t in that kind of place right now etc. We tend to focus too much on the negatives instead of the nuance. I believe this is where strong inner game comes in. What types of situations have you guys run into where the interaction goes really well but for one reason or another it stalls out? And for @Paul Benjamin what are some of the things we can look for to see if it’s a game issue, or a woman issue when dealing with these types of situations?
@Austin Wright initial impressions. The overt communication isn’t too bad, but the sub communication is totally off here : 1. Stop texting girls past 9:00PM. This is more of a personal boundary for me, but unless it’s to set up logistics like texting her my address or to meet up later, I usually don’t text girls after 6PM. You’re sending the wrong message texting them this late. 2. You aren’t leading the interaction, you’re just texting/responding. Right where she talked about the bowl being too spicy, I would’ve said something like “that’s too bad, but I know a spot that has the best Korean Bowls in town. Lets grab a bite together this week.” 3. Stop double texting. 4. This is another personal boundary rather than a hard rule, but I never meet a girl for a first date on the weekend unless SHE offers it first. 5. Don’t set dates up too far in advance. When she offered Wednesday I would’ve replied “that might work. Let’s catch up after the weekend once I have a better idea of my schedule”. Then that gives things time to simmer, gives you a reason to reopen on Monday and stay top of her mind. 6. Might be a personal thing, but I would never take a girl to Chilis. You don’t have to take her to some expensive place, but theres likely cool bars she’ll enjoy for the same price range. Overall the texts read like you’re in HER frame. I think you’re interest got in the way on this one, but this is how we learn.
@Paul Benjamin I think a post on the Risk VS Reward would be better suited, I’ll tag you on that one… As for the grocery store girl, she’s late 20s/early 30s and I ran into her again yesterday while shopping. I think she was actually following me as we ran into each other twice, but I thought it might be for more attention. She was with another coworker the 2nd time I bumped into her, so I casually said “hey what’s up guys” with a smirk and went on with my shopping. Looking back with your strategy I could’ve been less butthurt “cool guy” and more flirty. The need to feel like I don’t want to give away my attention to a girl who basically did a might ghosting, is that an ego protection or is that more or less a behavior that fits my identity/avatar of a busy guy? Also for context, she popped up on my Facebook as a friend suggestion and I took a look at her FB profile. There’s a few flirty pictures of her with another guy who also happens to work at the same store. They could be friends, but the way she has her arm around him on one of the pictures tells me there’s something more. Going back to your risk VS reward analysis : she is probably seeing the guy from the store at least casually, and the reward of getting the hot guy she’s been eye fucking for months to finally approach and get her IG was enough. The RISK for her went up even higher once she stalked my IG for a few days. The risk of casual flirty conversation in the store is very low, which is why that’s probably all this will ever be : the girl I banter with at Whole Foods.
@Thomas K this is the right mindset. I never go into a date saying “man how am I going to seduce this girl”. It’s always about having fun and holding frame, which will NATURALLY seduce her. Totally agree about avoiding serious topics too. If she brings it up, maybe spend a little time so she doesn’t feel ignored, but don’t dive down a rabbit hole about her childhood and why her parents got divorced, you’re suppose to be having FUN
the_beardsman_89 Paul inspired me to have a good landing page on IG in his first texting video. I want some feed back. @Paul Benjamin if you could give me your thoughts. @John Rogalsky you looked at my page once. I did make some small changes, deleting older pics that I did not like ECT. I would like to hear from others as well. John has been pretty active on this page. The more notes we compare the better we can all improve our lives. Thanks guys!
1. Same as above. 2. Same shirt, no good 3. No group photos unless it shows you in a higher status position. If you notice the group pics I post, I’m almost ALWAYS in the center and look like the leader VS along for the ride.
Howdy all; sorry I missed the recent meetings, but its for a good cause. If I'm not at a meeting I'm probably at the gym, which is likely all of our favorite places. I'm pet sitting in a beautiful house with a very cold pool, so I at least get some idea of what an actual ice bath must be like lol. Its never really that bad, and its soo good for you. How long did we only have cold water to wash in as a human race? A million years? At least a few hundred thousand I bet. Hot showers are one of the many many things we take for granted, and another thing to be grateful for. But cold showers/plunge are def healthier. I *always* feel better and sharp as a tack when I get out, even if I had a bottle of wine the night before. Do we have a book list in our group? I thought there was one posted somewhere, but I say we start one and have it "pinned" or easily accessed by everyone. I've started reading again and I think most successful people read. Here are my recent reads that are really good I think: "Poor Richard's Almanack" by Benjamin Franklin. His whole life was about continuous improvement in everything. "The Obstacle Is The Way" by Ryan Holiday. This guy is proof that not all Millenials are dipshits. :P This guy is a talented writer and way into the Stoics, so its a book about being tough and not giving up. "The Art of the Deal" by Donald Trump. I'm not some crazed out Trump fan, although I do a pretty good Trump impression. I do real estate for my day job and I read this for that, but its a good general business book imo. I'd like to hear everyone else's recommendations. I think reading is like going to the gym for the mind. Absolutely necessary.
I think this would be a good one for @Paul Benjamin to put together, almost like an Apex Recommended reading that we can reference. I’m sure he has a ton of directions to point us to. Before making any recommendations, what area/topic are you looking for reading material in?