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Loneliness
Are there reasons why people feel lonely? People tend to feel this even when they’re around people.
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New comment 21d ago
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These are feelings of a deeply buried "inner child[-ren]" / "exile" (IFS term), dissociated/ rejected/hidden/disconnected/buried by "psychological defenses" / "false self" / "protectors" (IFS term). So being around people does not really change anything, since that part ("sub-personality") of the psyche stays isolated, disconnected from the broader psyche and senses, outer world, typically since early childhood, as a result of some form of external rejection. (burden in IFS terms) Only work on integration would help. ("inner game")
Success So Far
Hey everyone, I wanted to share my results using self hypnosis. I’ve been a part of some groups and heard Ryan present on self hypnosis and toxic shame. Using just his free material (the dive to the five worksheet and the self hypnosis audio), I’ve been able to clear some serious bad programs. Two things I had always suffered with has been anxiety due to stress, and the craving for junk food, especially on weekends. Using the dive to the five, I identified the subconscious programs that were at the core of those problems, and then I listened to the audio one time for each program, and I had amazing results. For the junk food craving, my level of craving went down from a 9 to a 2 on weekends, and from a 3 to a 1 on week days. I basically changed my identity to someone who uses clean fuel, and in the time since I first listened to the audio, I went from 180 lbs down to 160 lbs. This was from the beginning of 2023 to now, and I’m 5’ 11” for reference. Also I think it’s related that I basically stopped drinking alcohol, not much of a drinker usually, but I went from 20+ drinks a year to maybe 2 drinks in the past year. For the stress management it’s harder to quantify, but I just feel like my anxiety during stressful times has gone from a 7 to a 1, so now when stressful things happen I feel so much more in control. Now I’m working on identifying even more bad programs and connecting to the feeling they give me, which has been the hardest part for me to get right. Happy to be a part of the group, and excited to see the results other people get! This stuff really works when you figure out how to do it right!
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@Dash Dash As part of my own therapeutic work on myself, I've generally found that various kinds of being "disconnected" from "intuitive" understanding of fundamental needs of the body, such as anything related to food (which are rife in the "ultra-neurotic" contemporary society), are one way or the other manifestations of "internal rifts", whether it is due to "trauma" ("historical, stored stress/pain") or ongoing stress or whatever. "Trauma" tends to be the most influential and underappreciated factor (as it tends to be hidden by multiple layers and hierarchies of defenses) and often "amplifies" the effect of any ongoing stress on the system. (pain seems to be hierarchical in this sense) One way to grasp this is this: It took billions of years for the body to evolve. And the "psychological defenses/adaptations" (including subconscious learned behavioral patterns and things like "intellect") parts of us are relatively recent. Therefore the notion that the body "does not know what it wants and needs", what is optimal for its own well-being is kind of nonsensical, since it's the PRODUCT of SURVIVING the brutal "algorithmic filtering" of natural selection during billions of years prior to "intellect" etc. even showing up on the map so to speak. Therefore, any overtly sub-optimal treatment (such as consuming "junk food" or anything we KNOW is detrimental) of one's own body is an INDICATION of some sort of "internal rift" one way or another, that some "higher-order" part ("evolutionarily newer" in terms of the mechanism's origin, and "post-birth", or personal-experience based vs evolutionary-experience based in terms of the specific pattern/decision's origin) made this decision / formed the behavioral pattern in contradiction to the evolutionary experience. In other words, technically speaking this points to an adaptation ("coping", "compensating", "avoidance" etc.) to SOMETHING. ("trauma" etc.)
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Good for you. See if this resonates with you. (myself, I've been drifting into the direction to "full carnivore" over the last 3 years as I've been "untangling my unconscious/subconscious", until I went 99% "only animal-originating products", in regards to alcohol I arrived to sort of "ACTIVELY NOT wanting to consume it at all"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbf5DYYXZsc
Has Anyone Heard of Scott Jansen?
What do you all think about Scott Jansen - Conversational Hypnosis Training channel, his perspective and approach? I just found his content tonight and started watching. He specializes in helping people be successful in their Hypnotherapy businesses.
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New comment 28d ago
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@Azrien Isaac And another (Alfred Korzybski's General Semantics: The Map is Not the Territory): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-hqP0H-lSw
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@Azrien Isaac Ha ha, as I keep working on my own "inner game", "untangling" my subconscious etc. one thought that keeps coming up sounds like "there seems to be far fewer coincidences than we tend to think", the pathways our subconscious takes us at different times in our life for example seems to make much more logical sense than we tend to think intellectually/consciously.
Major Breakthrough
So I broke up with my girlfriend a month ago, after a over a year of conventional dialog therapy with a psychologist and trying to figure out if I was the asshole or if I was actually dealing with an abusive girlfriend. I'd been wanting to break up for a long time, but never had the cajones to actually do it. When I was actually able to do it I broke down completely, feeling like a total asshole, and a few days afterward tried to get back with her. Whenever she asked me a question that I wanted to answer honestly my body froze up completely, and I started tensing up and fight my brain on actually saying something. I wanted to speak my thoughts and feelings, but my body would not let me at all. After we got off the phone I immediately went and did a trauma clearing audio because I knew the feelings were at a high intensity. When I got into the identifying portion I went back to being three years old and my mom is screaming at me. She won't stop screaming at me. I'm three years old and don't even understand what she's screaming about, or if this is even a real memory, but I'm curled up into a ball terrified out of my three year old mind. In the real world forty year old me is bawling his eyes out on the floor, furious and screaming back at his mom for being so horrible to a defenseless little kid. I hadn't cried that much in probably five years, maybe ten. I had to pause the recording for ten minutes just to process the whole thing because I was blubbering snotty teary mess. I was able to go back in and send it all away in the tornado, and produce a protective force field, and immediately after the recording ended I passed out in exhaustion on my sleeping pad I had setup on the floor for the session. Woke up two hours later and went to bed. The next morning I felt like I had been released from prison. I was happy and excited about the day, and looking forward to collecting my thoughts on my relationship with my girlfriend and going to an extra therapy session to try and refine them before meeting my girlfriend for a talk about if we were going to get back together. Because despite the crap I've dealt with from her, she actually is a very sweet girl who has a huge level of trauma herself that she has never tried to remedy, and the little girl inside is screaming for the love and safety that she never got as a kid.
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I'm reading your posts and the forum in general in reverse order, so apologies for any confusion. Good for you, you being able to express what's on your mind without fear, freezing etc. is a clear indication of significant progress, of the work you accomplished. It's a vital step of "getting out of that prison"... of "life-time self-sabotage", staying in "non-relationships", whatever you might call it... Sounds like a BARGAINING step in terms of GRIEVING process. Grieving of all that lifetime of self-sabotage... Hopefully the next step (ACCEPTANCE) of blocklisting people who invariably "help" you to self-sabotage over the endless years is not far away ;) Instead of trying to express anything to them at all for a millionth time, or having a "make up sex" with them... ;) So you are back with her again? (judging by your latest post - "Healing Narcissism..."). Been there, kind of... Many of us I guess. It's inevitably a non-linear process. There seems to be no way of avoiding burning ourselves a few times, going back and forth, before finally learning to not do it again. "meeting my girlfriend for a talk about if we were going to get back together. Because despite the crap I've dealt with from her, she actually is a very sweet girl who has a huge level of trauma herself that she has never tried to remedy, and the little girl inside is screaming for the love and safety that she never got as a kid." Some call this "pathological empathy" :( many of us who went through similar kind of childood inevitably possess. Although it's not the best term probably, I believe it is a good tool/term to remind oneself from time to time not to engage in this [self-]destructive pattern time and time again. I mean this automatic sliding into the rut of "explaining" to yourself that "she has a girl screaming inside herself too" so that you "have to" focus on her is destructive for both you and her. Boundaries is what you really need to focus on. Especially considering what you said: "SHE has never TRIED to remedy". (she never tried to take responsibility for addressing HER issues, and therefore YOU taking ANY responsibility for that at all can ONLY lead to making things worse for both of you)
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@Laurent Bernut Thank you for sharing. I am in Paul's group too (but not active lately, neck-deep in processing my inner stuff) and remember bits of your situation from group calls. Paul's insights on relational dynamics and certain personality structures are unparalleled. There are a lot of parallels to my own history and present susceptibilities as well. Yes, I agree that narcissism is not a gender issue, although it tends to be expressed in males in females differently. ( ~ overt / "in your face" vs covert / "sophisticated" / "convoluted" ) I realize I wasn't very clear in what I was trying to express. What I meant to say is what @Matt Perry labeled in himself as "narcissism" (I mentioned it in quotes for that reason) is not a "pathology" as he is clearly rather self-aware. And when people speak of "pathological states", in my opinion what is described is severe disconnection within (lack of self-awareness). Besides, the term "narcissism" seems to be thrown around too much these days especially towards men, and in most cases it is inherent, natural masculine traits which seem to be "shamed" by using this term ( ~"if you do not behave more like a woman, you are "broken", a narcissist" message to the psyche), rather than pointing to any "problematic narcissism." So adopting this term as a characteristic of oneself does not serve or point to any "problem to be solved." Rather, its adoption is likely to only amplify the already existing toxic shame within and drive the psyche deeper into "less self-awareness."
Is it just me?
Good evening! First time posting on here and It needs to be more often and it will be but, I have a simple question. For the men in the group, have any of you had problems being in the gym because it's filled with attractive women you can't have and men who are objectively more attractive than you? and if so, how did you get over that?
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"attractive women you can't have" How do you know that? (the *can't have* part) Sounds like an "externally-acquired [false] notion" (i.e. a lie) to me. "men who are objectively more attractive than you" There is no such thing. Every woman/person perceives the world subjectively, and women are not as visually-based as men in regards to the opposite sex. They are much more behaviorally-based in this regard, in other words how you show up behaviorally is much more important to how you look (which is a factor too but not anywhere nearly important for women as it is for men). And how you show up is directly consequential from the state of your "inner game", your internal relationship with yourself, the core subject of this community.
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@Danny Denihan Now it's even more evident that it's an "inner game" issue. There is that common sense recommendation which you seem to "automatically" ("uber logically" LOL) go against, which sounds like: "Don't invent reasons for a woman to reject you." "If I was her, would I REALLY be into me" How does it serve you to fill your mind with such questions and project supposed negative "answers" (fantasies divorced from empirical reality) it into the world, including women in that gym around you? Women are very good at subconsciously picking up that shit, you know. It obviously does not serve you in the sense of getting women to be into you. So in what way DOES this pattern serve you?
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