Another quick one this morning but spinning off of my post yesterday, when desire isnβt enoughβ¦ Last week I cold approached a girl at the grocery store; but it was a pretty warm lead. She works at the store and has given me obvious signs of wanting me to approach, but I never moved it past more than a smile out of respect for my LTR at the time. Last Friday we happened to cross paths and she waived to me with a big smile. Now that Iβm single I didnβt want to let an easy opener pass by. We exchanged some banter for a few mins, she was asking date type questions (do you work for that company, how old is your dog, how is your week) and I closed with her instagram telling her weβll grab drinks. A half hour later she followed me back and watched my stories, more signs of high interest. I had a busy weekend and held off until on opening her on IG, but hit her up on Sunday evening. Sheβs only watched one of my stories since, and hasnβt opened/replied to my opener. My old framework wouldβve been : man what did I do wrong, I thought for sure she was into meβ¦ After chatting with Paul, I now know I can create desire in a woman, and more importantly Iβm getting more familiar with what that looks like. With my new mindset, Iβm starting consider more nuanced possibilities. Maybe I didnβt do anything wrong, maybe I killed it and she does have high desire, but maybe thereβs something with HER. Maybe thereβs a guy in the picture but she couldnβt help but flirt with me, or she doesnβt think a guy like me would want more than a hook up and she isnβt in that kind of place right now etc. We tend to focus too much on the negatives instead of the nuance. I believe this is where strong inner game comes in. What types of situations have you guys run into where the interaction goes really well but for one reason or another it stalls out? And for @Paul Benjamin what are some of the things we can look for to see if itβs a game issue, or a woman issue when dealing with these types of situations?
@John Rogalsky all good observations. This was 6 months ago, so I feel a lot has changed. I like what you said about leading the conversation vs just texting and responding. If this was a dating app I would say it's a little different and okay to have some back and forth, but this was a cold approach and I agree. Great break down John this was helpful.
@Paul Benjamin Paul. That was an amazing response. I'm going to read it over a few more times. I never thought about leading the conversation more vs just texting and replying. It's simple but I never thought about it that way. By leading you mean just taking the conversation where you want to go then closing when the time is right, correct? I'm going to add this to my strategy. This was done about 6 months ago..I feel now I would have kept the conversation going a bit longer before closing. In any case I'm now aware of where I went wrong, now I can make the adjustments. More field reports to come! π Thanks again
the_beardsman_89 Paul inspired me to have a good landing page on IG in his first texting video. I want some feed back. @Paul Benjamin if you could give me your thoughts. @John Rogalsky you looked at my page once. I did make some small changes, deleting older pics that I did not like ECT. I would like to hear from others as well. John has been pretty active on this page. The more notes we compare the better we can all improve our lives. Thanks guys!
Whatβs up gentlemen? Iβve been following Paul for a couple years in the shadows. I found him from MLDβs channel. I feel like Iβve made some decent progress on my own in certain areas but I also know I have a lot to catch up on. Making up for lost time is a sentiment I feel often. Iβm 33 as of 11/12 and located in Raleigh, North Carolina. To give a little about what brought me here I would start with saying I grew up in an Italian family and stayed a little too close to the nest for too long. About the time I started trying to push myself out in the works(at the late age of 25 lol) my father died suddenly of a heart attack while we were having dinner. My mother was not very independent and had just gone into remission from a battle with cancer and required a lot of attention. This led to several years of me acting like a child basically but also trying my best to be there for her. Typical Italian situation with a ridiculous mother/ mommy issues. Again I started to venture out on my own a tad, with my mother living with my sister for a time, and my mom got diagnosed with cancer a second time. This time is was basically a death sentence. My sister and family are not really great people, so it kinda was on me to take care of her. It was a 24/7 thing for about 2 years. I had been wasting my 20s away smoking weed and not really doing anything other than training(mma/powerlifting) and hooking up with tinder goblins(being honest lol). So because of that I had burned through any scraps of savings I had and when my mother died I had nothing. Just a half broken down car and no where to stay. Started sleeping in the car and showering at the gym. Started working as much as I could, definitely didnβt start getting my shit together until about a year after she passed though. Itβs been 3 years since she died and I am happy to say I have quit all addictions(weed, some porn and shitty food), have a place now with a buddy. A better car and a career doing something Iβve always wanted to do, Iβm a private investigator. Hoping to turn those skills into a business of my own within a couple years.
@Jeff Kantner I have mad fucking respect for you brother. Thanks for the detailed introduction and opening up like you did. Wow. That was inspiring. That's incredible to see how you have and are continuing to make forward progress. I had a divorce years ago. At the time I had no game ore understanding of intersexual dynamics or female nature. I was pretty good with money as my dad is in accounting. But I had no game skills. Now I feel like I have improved my skills with girls a lot, but am now focusing on doing better financially. Like my brother always tells me, it's not how much you make it's about how much you keep. That's has really stuck with me and I am working to keep more and improve my finances. I continue to learn and build my sexual, game and relationship skills also. Really money, mucele game and frame. Bro I'm so happy that you are part of this community. We are on the right path. We need community and brotherhood. @Paul Benjamin has done a great thing by forming this group. His work has certainly changed my life and many others as well.
I sent this to @John Rogalsky by Dm, but figured I would ask for clarity as to why girls put walls like this up, or in this case I feel a sexual action threshold. I coped pasted the DM directly below. @Paul Benjamin I just want clerty on why girls have the sexual action threshold and see if this was the resistance I saw below. This was a older woman 50 lol π. Her daughter is away at navy boot camp and kinda set us up at a going away party. Totally casual. The daughter worked under me at one point. No longer in thet organization. Long story short. I went on a few dates with one of my coworkers Mom's lol. She left for boot camp and interduced me at her going away party. We went out for drinks a few weeks later the first night at baccos wine bar. I texted her because I had got her number at the party but did not reach out for a few weeks. We had a fun time. We enjoyed some good drinks and conversations. She already knows that this was casual cuz her daught warned her I was not the settling down sort. Lol. I ended up making out with her after walking her to her car. ( That's normally the place I'll push for a first kiss). The 2nd date I texted her that we would hit the golf range, then come back to my place for some wine and fun. π₯π. We hit some balls. She was a bit self conscious and scared to hit the balls in front of others, but I made her get out of her comfort zone in a flirty way. We made out in my room. Had a good time, opened a bottle of wine. I even tied her up with some bdsm restraints. But after going for the pants to take them off she gave me the "be good line". And said sex is not happening. I just smiled and ended up taking off her shirt. I'm on top of her at this point. Sucking on her tits ext.. I go for the pants again and she said be good. This was the 2nd time of saying no. Basically 3 times. At this point she gave me a simaler line as she gave you. She asked me "are you mad, you are used to just getting your way with girls." Then went on to tell me about how she friend zoned her ex boyfriend . I laughed, said I never been friend zoned then said why the fuck would I be mad, in a playful voice. I took my pants off, and pulled my dick out and told her to suck it. She did. Like a pro. Ended up face fucking her. She told me to lay on my back. Long story short she gave one of the best blow jobs I have had and ended up cuming in her mouth. She did not even hesitate to swallow.
Hi guys, actualy my question is a little bit strange but it happend to me two or three times and I wanna share it with you and ask your opinion. As you know after make out or sex it would be a smell from women vigina (which is not very pleseant of course) but sometimes it happens when I am talking to a friend or classmate (girl obviouslyπ) after about 10 minutes or so I can feel that smell , strong smell, ! let's say after a normal discussion or when she touch my arms few times! Even without doing anything I could feel those smell from them and it's bizzare! I just wondering why and do you have the same experience ?
Only a few times. Most of the time I'm loving the smell. It's like a good bottle of whiskey, they taste diffrent, they smell different and I'm liking it! π€£.It sticks around on the beard too. Just stay away from the nasty ones if it's a problem, for your sake.